Comparison

An Otter.ai alternative with no bot and no minute limits

Otter.ai is the tool most people meet first, which means it is also the tool most people are looking to leave. Two complaints come up again and again: something visibly joins the meeting, and there is a meter running on how much you can transcribe.

The short answer

Switch if the bot is a problem, if you keep hitting the minute cap, or if you would rather your meeting audio never left your laptop.

Do not switch if you need Otter's shared team workspace, live captions across platforms, or anything that has to work on Windows, web or a phone.

The bot is the thing people actually hate

Otter works by joining your meeting. It appears in Zoom, Google Meet and Microsoft Teams as a participant, records from inside the call, and produces a transcript from there.

That design has consequences you feel every week. Someone has to let it in from the waiting room. External guests see an account they do not recognise and ask about it. A client on a sensitive call notices a recorder in the attendee list and the temperature of the conversation changes. If the bot fails to join, you have no recording at all and you find out afterwards.

TNN never joins anything. It captures the audio your Mac is already playing, so there is nothing in the participant list, no meeting link to hand over, no waiting room, and nothing for the other side to notice. It works identically on Zoom, Meet, Teams, a Slack huddle, a phone call on speaker, or two people talking in a room. If your Mac can hear it, TNN can transcribe it.

Recording without a bot is not recording without consent. An invisible recorder does not change your legal or ethical obligations, and in plenty of places it does not change the law either. Tell people you are recording. TNN removes the awkward bot, not the conversation.

The meter is the other thing

On Otter's Pro plan you get 1,200 transcription minutes a month, a 90-minute ceiling on any single conversation, and 10 file imports a month. Twenty hours sounds generous until you have a week of workshops, or one three-hour planning session that gets cut off at ninety minutes.

Business lifts the meeting transcription limit and raises the per-conversation cap to four hours, at $30 per user per month billed monthly or $19.99 billed annually.

TNN has no minute limit, and the reason is structural rather than generous: transcription runs on your Neural Engine, so a minute of audio costs us nothing. There is no meter to build.

  Otter.ai TNN
Bot in the participant list Yes, joins Zoom, Teams and Meet No, captures system audio
Monthly transcription limit Pro: 1,200 min/mo, 90 min per conversation None, it runs on your hardware
Where transcription runs Otter's cloud On your Mac, on the Neural Engine
Pricing Pro $16.99/mo, or $8.33/mo billed annually. Business $30/mo, or $19.99 annually One payment, $49 planned. Free during beta
Where notes live Otter's cloud workspace One Markdown file per meeting, in your folder
Works with no internet No Yes, after the model downloads once
Platforms Web, Windows, macOS, iOS, Android macOS 13+, Apple Silicon only
Team features Shared workspace, live captions, integrations No, single-user today

Otter.ai pricing and limits checked July 2026 against public pricing pages. Vendors change plans often - verify before you decide.

What happens to the audio

Otter uploads and processes your meetings in its cloud. That is a normal SaaS arrangement and for a lot of meetings it is genuinely fine.

It is not fine when the meeting is a candidate interview, a compensation conversation, an unannounced incident, a client under an NDA that enumerates subprocessors, or anything a security questionnaire will ask about later. In those cases the honest answer to "where does the audio go" needs to be "nowhere".

With TNN that is the actual answer. Recording and transcription happen entirely on your Mac. There is no server, so there is nothing to breach, subpoena or add to a subprocessor list. The one online step is optional: AI-written notes run through your own Claude account, and you can see exactly which files Claude reads.

What you get that Otter does not have at all

Every TNN meeting is one plain Markdown file: your live notes, the transcript and the AI summary together, in a folder you choose. Delete the app and the files remain, readable in any editor.

Because they are plain files, TNN can expose them to Claude over MCP. Claude lists your meetings, reads notes and transcripts, runs skills you have saved, and writes results back into the meeting file. Ask what you committed to across the last month of client calls and the answer comes from transcripts rather than memory. That runs on your own Claude Pro or Max subscription, so there is no API key and no AI surcharge from us.

Otter gives you a searchable cloud archive. TNN gives you a folder your AI can reason over.

Where Otter is still the better choice

  • You are not on Apple Silicon. TNN needs macOS 13 or later on an Apple Silicon Mac. Otter runs on web, Windows, macOS, iOS and Android.
  • You need live captions. Otter's real-time captioning is a genuine accessibility feature and TNN does not match it.
  • You need a team workspace. Shared folders, teammates searching each other's meetings, permissions. TNN is single-user today.
  • You need to record meetings you are not in. A bot can sit in a call you skipped. Nothing local can.
  • You want a mature product. TNN is in beta. You will find rough edges.

Trying it

Download, grant the screen and microphone permissions macOS asks for, connect your calendar so TNN knows which meeting is starting, and press record. The transcription model downloads once, about 600 MB, and runs on the Neural Engine after that. Language detection is automatic, including meetings that switch language mid-sentence.

Try it on your next meeting

Records and transcribes on your Mac. No bot in the call, no cloud, no subscription for transcription. Free while the beta runs.

Free during beta macOS 13+ Apple Silicon

Questions people ask

Can I transcribe Zoom without a bot joining the call?

Yes. TNN captures the audio playing on your Mac rather than joining as a participant, so nothing appears in the Zoom participant list. The same approach works for Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, Slack huddles, a phone call on speaker, or a conversation in the room.

Does TNN have a monthly transcription limit like Otter's 1,200 minutes?

No. Transcription runs on your Mac's Neural Engine, so there is no per-minute cost to us and no meter. Meeting length is limited only by your disk space.

Is TNN cheaper than Otter.ai over time?

Otter Pro is $16.99 per month, or $8.33 per month billed annually. TNN is a single payment, $49 planned after the beta and free while the beta runs. The saving compounds, but the more important difference is that your notes keep working when you stop paying, because they are plain files on your disk.